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But it will operate on a rotation out of Kuala
                                                                             Lumpur doing domestic and international. It
                                                                             will touch Hong Kong, and eventually South
                                                                             China connecting Shenzhen and Guang-
                                                                             zhou. The third freighter is scheduled for
                                                                             delivery some time in December this year
                                                                             but it has to go through the entire checks
                                                                             and handover before we can induct that air-
                                                                             craft effectively. We are looking to potentially
                                                                             place the third freighter in Manila. And the
                                                                             goal is to figure out how to maximize our
                                                                             network value where we cannot reach out
                                                                             with our belly capacity.

          that they can be disrupted. So, only if you're                     Do you think that your decision to
          an outsider and a little bit naïve, you then                       launch freighter service was at the
          have a chance to try this. That is what we're                      appropriate time given the market
          doing at Teleport.                                                 conditions have been quite brutal in
                                                                             terms of rates?
          How important is it for Teleport                                   Most people see induction of freighter at the
          to have its dedicated main deck    Most people would               time of rock bottom race as, maybe foolish.
          capacity to leverage the current   say there’s no peak             But I would say this is the time in which
          position that you hold in South                                    other people are retreating and we are able
          East Asia and the potential growth   season this year. But I       to take some share. So I would see that as an
          ambitions in the years ahead?      say that there’s a peak         opportunity. Obviously economic conditions
          I would say it is important to have freighter   season and it will   do matter. But ultimately, the belly space
          capacity because Asia in general lacks                             is really what enabled us to take freighters
          controlled capacity. In South East Asia more   be strong, stronger   in the first place. And so, it's all about the
          than 60% of the total available capacity is in   than expected. We're   fact that we were sitting on belly space and
          the bellies. And most of that belly capacity is                    asked ourselves when we can graduate
          on low cost carriers, which is how we started   gearing up for that.   beyond belly space. Therefore, the timing
          Air Asia, the largest low cost carrier in South   Ecommerce is really   for us is really less about when the market
          East Asia. I think the problem is that a lot of                    conditions are right. It's more about when
           customers don't believe you can deliver   the leading indicator   are we ready to graduate to freighters. And I
            to the service level agreement (SLA) that   of how strong it will   think we discovered that that was now.
            you promised them or the expectations
             they have, without you having some   be and we've seen          Teleport also has been entering
             form of controlled capacity. We were   that hold up pretty      into partnership with other cargo
              always a belly player. We believe the                          airlines in the region – you had one
              future is mainly going to be belly, but   well so far.         going on with Pradhaan Air Express
               the full value of the network does                            in India, Garuda Indonesia and the
               require controlled capacity. That is                          recent one with SF Airlines in China.
                the reason we have taken the A321                            How significant are these for your
                 converted freighter. We are going   where yields are plummeting back to pre-  business and growth strategy?
                 to have three because we see an   Covid levels. And so what does that mean   I think in the next 24 months 40 percent
                 opportunity in South East Asia as   for most of the players that transport things   of our growth would be driven by third
                it is a region of 10 countries. And so   from A to B by air. It's only when you have   party airlines. And the reason for that is
               each country represents a base where   the right cost structure and the network that   because this industry doesn't generally share
               we could put our aircraft and can   you are able to sustain and build a business   network. And so the outcome of that is that
                  actually operate a network that   in this space that can actually do the things   everybody is worse off. Everybody is not at
                    other people cannot operate.   that you want to do.      the utilization of their asset that they should
                      You literally have to have                             be. This may be because of lack of trust or
                       multiple airlines in differ-  When do you expect to have your   just legacy mindset of not wanting to share
                       ent countries to do that   second and third freighters joining   the network. And I would say that what's
                        which we have under   your fleet?                    critical for us is to break that for companies
                        Air Asia. The industry is   The second freighter will join the fleet in No-  that represent the best in class like Garuda
                        going through a period   vember and will be based in Kuala Lumpur.   Indonesia SF Airlines. We work with many

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